“You said that you were in the wrong body, that you should be a man.”

In 1997, Les (L) and Scott (R) GrantSmith’s marriage was on the rocks. They had been together for 10 years and were raising two children. But Les was hiding something.

Les was born female but felt like a man in the wrong body. Les is transgender.

Keeping this secret made Les fall into a deep depression and grow withdrawn from the rest of the family.

Finally, Scott confronted his wife, and the GrantSmith family changed forever.

Les also spoke with his daughters, Thea (R) and Amanda (L), about what the transition was like for them.

Recorded in San Diego, California
Produced by Michael Garofalo
Facilitated by Jasmyn Belcher
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