“Here in the States, I don't even know how to talk to people...”

Army Captain Drew Pham was 24 years old when he completed a tour of duty in Afghanistan in October 2011.

Since returning, Drew has had a hard time making sense of what he saw at war and adjusting to life at home.

At StoryCorps, he spoke with his wife, Molly Pearl, about that transition and some of his most difficult combat memories.

Image of
Recorded in

Drew was honorably discharged from the Army in 2013.

Recorded in New York City, New York
Music Info: "The Temperature of the Air on the Bow of the Kaleetan" by Chris Zabriskie from the album Undercover Vampire Policeman
Produced by Jasmyn Belcher
Facilitated by Yasmin Peña
Read the Transcript
Click here for the transcript.
In partnership with
Brooklyn Museum