John Warren (JW) and Chida Warren (CW)
JW: I went to work on Capitol Hill at the age of 17.
CW: Where you worked for the late great Shirley Chisholm.
JW: [laughs] It was an office full of women. They made me go get their coffee. They made me go get their lunch.
CW: Oh, no [laughs].
JW: But I always appreciated what she did.
CW: Yeah. You had all this experience politically, a great education.
But I remember when we moved to San Diego the car — it had the hole in the floor.
JW: [laughs]
CW: And I remember you took a night job, a part-time job.
JW: Yeah.
CW: At the liquor store.
JW: Yeah.
CW: Having to start over and prove yourself. What was that like?
JW: Well, 99% of the places I sought to work said I was overqualified and wouldn’t hire me. Eventually, I was a law clerk. One day, I was in the library and these two young white lawyers came in and they had pulled a statute and they were having a discussion behind me about what something meant.
I couldn’t help myself.
CW: [laughs]
JW: So I said, ‘You know, if you look at footnote so and so, it’ll clear up for you what you’re trying to find out.’ And I never turned around. So they read it, and they said, ‘Well, how did you know that?’ And I said, ‘Because I helped write it.’
CW: [laughs] They invited me to jog with them. And one of them, you know, in a very cocky manner, says, ‘Well, what law school did you go to?’ And I said ‘Howard.’ And so he says, ‘Well, I’ve never heard of Howard.’ I said, ‘Have you heard of Justice Thurgood Marshall on the Supreme Court?’ ‘Yeah.’ I said, ‘Well, it’s the same law school he went to.’
CW: [laughs]
JW: It was like, oh, oh, okay. I’ve learned to be comfortable any place that I am.
CW: Yeah.
JW: I’m, I’m comfortable in the White House. I’m comfortable in the outhouse.
I didn’t know where I was gonna end up. I thought that lawyers and journalists were just brilliant people.
CW: And here you are, the brilliant one [laughs].
JW: Hey, you know. Shows it’s nothing but a myth, right? [laughs]
CW: Not true.
JW: Yeah. It’s a myth.
CW: Growing up, it was really comforting to know that you’ve had your bumps in the road.
JW: Oh, yes.
CW: And your difficulties. And I was more grateful of your experiences when I had my first run for office recently.
So thank you dad.
JW: Well, I’m very proud of you. When people ask me how I’m doing, my favorite saying is, ‘I’m so blessed, I have to look at the ground to make sure I’m not levitating.’
CW: [laughs]
JW: All right. [laughs]