Since she was a child, Joanna Ebenstein has been fascinated with the things that make most people squirm.

As an adult, she founded the Morbid Anatomy Museum, where visitors could see a pickled opossum and a two-headed duckling, among other unusual and grotesque objects. The museum closed its doors in 2016.

At StoryCorps, Joanna sat down with her father, Bob Ebenstein (pictured together above), to talk about the childhood origins of her career, including a hunt for black widow spiders in their backyard.

Originally aired October 31, 2014, on NPR’s Morning Edition.