Cherie Johnson and James Ransom

Cousins Cherie Johnson and James Ransom recall their formidable Sunday school teacher, Miss Lizzie Devine, the only woman who scared them more than their own grandmother.

Watch an animated version of their conversation.

Originally aired March 24, 2006, on NPR’s Morning Edition. A shortened version was rebroadcast on February 16, 2018, on the same program.

Walt Shaffner and Mary Fischer

Walt Shaffner and his sister Mary Fischer remember their parents.